Curiosity Will Be In Martian Atmosphere Early In The Morning

[Terminator]

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/index.html

[Elephant Castle]

astounding I watched when Path finder landed and it was just phenomenal to see the first pictures streaming from path finder.. btw the baloons used for landing are manufactured in delawaree

[Elephant Castle]

astounding I watched when Path finder landed and it was just phenomenal to see the first pictures streaming from path finder.. btw the baloons used for landing are manufactured in delawaree

http://www.ilcdover.com/Impact-Bags/

[Terminator]

Interesting. Tonight's landing will be using a different approach though. The thing is too heavy for the bags.

Here is the approach.

[Terminator]

Curiosity has landed.

http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/mars/ ... news3.html

[Panzer.]

thanks Termie for info,
I hope they will share all images "as is, where is" without hiding the strange ones.

[Elephant Castle]

Boy oh boy this separates American scientists from the rest of the world. They are as practical as they come. Landing a 1 ton vehicle on Maritain soil is no small feat.
Question though:
Why make a third trip to the same planet we already know that there is no life in mars. So why not explore other planets within the solar system?
Kweli America has money the price tag of this mission is 2.5 billion dollars

I am interested in make that connection with life out there.. Digging rocks in inhabitable planet is not the way to burn cash

[Terminator]

They have definitely mastered space technologies better than the rest of the world. I think previous trips did not so much definitively answer the question of life as raise more questions. This rover is supposed to provide some more insights. The most likely type of extra-terrestrial life we are likely to confirm in our lifetime is unfortunately the simplest type; microbes - perhaps moss-like like if we are very lucky. It doesn't mean there is nothing out there - complex life just likely to be rare.

Boy oh boy this separates American scientists from the rest of the world. They are as practical as they come. Landing a 1 ton vehicle on Maritain soil is no small feat.
Question though:
Why make a third trip to the same planet we already know that there is no life in mars. So why not explore other planets within the solar system?
Kweli America has money the price tag of this mission is 2.5 billion dollars

I am interested in make that connection with life out there.. Digging rocks in inhabitable planet is not the way to burn cash

[Karega]

For sure Americans have done very well in Space technologies but i doubt they are better than the Russians. The said Rover is using Russian engine; the international space Centre relies on Russian's Soyuz capsule for supplies and has been for quite sometime.
The Russians (then Soviet Union) were the first to land a craft in Mars and actually there exist some interesting pictures that some have speculated they prove existent of life in Mars.
Also Russians had the Mir Space Craft that lasted for decades(?) before Russians themselves crashed it into earth.
I could go on, but i think Americans have been playing catch-up game with Russians a far as space technologies is concerned. Nevertheless, the two nations have clearly pioneered the rest of the world...
Correct me if am wrong!

They have definitely mastered space technologies better than the rest of the world. I think previous trips did not so much definitively answer the question of life as raise more questions. This rover is supposed to provide some more insights. The most likely type of extra-terrestrial life we are likely to confirm in our lifetime is unfortunately the simplest type; microbes - perhaps moss-like like if we are very lucky. It doesn't mean there is nothing out there - complex life just likely to be rare.

[Terminator]

In interplanetary explorations the Russians have something to learn from them. Even if you ignore the Phobos-Grunt mission that failed to leave earth's orbit and crashed into the pacific ocean, the Russians have not sent anything beyond earth orbit in quite a while.

Presently the Soyuz craft are a stop gap measure. Because the US government is getting out of the business of sending folks to near earth orbit and turning it all over to private enterprise. There are already several success stories. So their reliance on (the cheaper than available options)Soyuz wont last long.

The most sophisticated and longest missions on Mars to date have not been able to conclude the question of life on Mars. All inidications are so far that its barren, but with some intriguing prospects. Can you share some more information on the interesting pictures by the Russian craft that landed on Mars? Also shed some more light on the Russian engine.

The Russians have perfected one thing better than the Americans. Sending people to near earth oribit on the cheap. This will soon be done privately in the US.

For sure Americans have done very well in Space technologies but i doubt they are better than the Russians. The said Rover is using Russian engine; the international space Centre relies on Russian's Soyuz capsule for supplies and has been for quite sometime.
The Russians (then Soviet Union) were the first to land a craft in Mars and actually there exist some interesting pictures that some have speculated they prove existent of life in Mars.
Also Russians had the Mir Space Craft that lasted for decades(?) before Russians themselves crashed it into earth.
I could go on, but i think Americans have been playing catch-up game with Russians a far as space technologies is concerned. Nevertheless, the two nations have clearly pioneered the rest of the world...
Correct me if am wrong!

They have definitely mastered space technologies better than the rest of the world. I think previous trips did not so much definitively answer the question of life as raise more questions. This rover is supposed to provide some more insights. The most likely type of extra-terrestrial life we are likely to confirm in our lifetime is unfortunately the simplest type; microbes - perhaps moss-like like if we are very lucky. It doesn't mean there is nothing out there - complex life just likely to be rare.

[Elephant Castle]

Kanspirancy Theories according Karega sources is that a man with a Laser "spear" was seen near the rover trying to steal the battery

[Terminator]

I was wondering what inspired the laser spears in the movie Stargate. Now we know, thanks to Karega.

Kanspirancy Theories according Karega sources is that a man with a Laser "spear" was seen near the rover trying to steal the battery

[Karega]

1. The engine on the rocket that delivered the Rover to Mars; Atlas V has Russian RD-180 Engine.
2. what do you mean that "soyuz is a stop gap measure" when it has been the workhorse of delivery supplies and astronaut to the International Space centre EVEN WHEN Americans had their shuttle functioning?
3. I think the photo i referred to is from 1982 Soviet mission to venus..

Also you just have a look at this just for information
http://www.rt.com/news/mars-russian-detector-water-287/

You seem so enthralled about American achievement in Space to the exclusion of all others. Am not saying that Americans haven't done well, but mostly we get lopsided because since we became English Speakers we develop lack of interest/knowledge of what non-English speakers like Russians, Chinese, Japanese are doing in space exploration.. Whereas its a race to see who "wins", there is also a lot of collaboration among the world powers in space technology.
Hio tu!

In interplanetary explorations the Russians have something to learn from them. Even if you ignore the Phobos-Grunt mission that failed to leave earth's orbit and crashed into the pacific ocean, the Russians have not sent anything beyond earth orbit in quite a while.

Presently the Soyuz craft are a stop gap measure. Because the US government is getting out of the business of sending folks to near earth orbit and turning it all over to private enterprise. There are already several success stories. So their reliance on (the cheaper than available options)Soyuz wont last long.

The most sophisticated and longest missions on Mars to date have not been able to conclude the question of life on Mars. All inidications are so far that its barren, but with some intriguing prospects. Can you share some more information on the interesting pictures by the Russian craft that landed on Mars? Also shed some more light on the Russian engine.

The Russians have perfected one thing better than the Americans. Sending people to near earth oribit on the cheap. This will soon be done privately in the US.

For sure Americans have done very well in Space technologies but i doubt they are better than the Russians. The said Rover is using Russian engine; the international space Centre relies on Russian's Soyuz capsule for supplies and has been for quite sometime.
The Russians (then Soviet Union) were the first to land a craft in Mars and actually there exist some interesting pictures that some have speculated they prove existent of life in Mars.
Also Russians had the Mir Space Craft that lasted for decades(?) before Russians themselves crashed it into earth.
I could go on, but i think Americans have been playing catch-up game with Russians a far as space technologies is concerned. Nevertheless, the two nations have clearly pioneered the rest of the world...
Correct me if am wrong!

They have definitely mastered space technologies better than the rest of the world. I think previous trips did not so much definitively answer the question of life as raise more questions. This rover is supposed to provide some more insights. The most likely type of extra-terrestrial life we are likely to confirm in our lifetime is unfortunately the simplest type; microbes - perhaps moss-like like if we are very lucky. It doesn't mean there is nothing out there - complex life just likely to be rare.

[Terminator]

If I seem enthralled by American ingenuity, its because I am. The Soyuz are indeed a stop gap measure. For the Americans. The Americans do not intend to rely on them after they commission a privately designed and developed human transportation craft. From what I know, there is no way you build the ISS without the space shuttles. Nothing else has that type of payload capacity. While its fair to say their mastery of putting things in near earth orbit is comparable, I would give the Americans an edge for sophistication.

When it comes to sending things away from the earth, the Americans clearly have a more colorful and successful history. The gap is even larger when it comes to Mars. The latest landing on Mars is just one example of such. Even without mentioning the rovers and satellites currently around Mars. Other than the orbiter that was lost due to a metric/english system mixup, I cannot find spot where I can piss on their success, no matter how hard I try.

Other than some instruments carried on the American Curiosity Rover, can you name any Russian/Soviet craft beyond earth orbit that is doing anything useful?

Question: Did the Russians photograph evidence of life on Venus?

1. The engine on the rocket that delivered the Rover to Mars; Atlas V has Russian RD-180 Engine.
2. what do you mean that "soyuz is a stop gap measure" when it has been the workhorse of delivery supplies and astronaut to the International Space centre EVEN WHEN Americans had their shuttle functioning?
3. I think the photo i referred to is from 1982 Soviet mission to venus..

Also you just have a look at this just for information
http://www.rt.com/news/mars-russian-detector-water-287/

You seem so enthralled about American achievement in Space to the exclusion of all others. Am not saying that Americans haven't done well, but mostly we get lopsided because since we became English Speakers we develop lack of interest/knowledge of what non-English speakers like Russians, Chinese, Japanese are doing in space exploration.. Whereas its a race to see who "wins", there is also a lot of collaboration among the world powers in space technology.
Hio tu!

In interplanetary explorations the Russians have something to learn from them. Even if you ignore the Phobos-Grunt mission that failed to leave earth's orbit and crashed into the pacific ocean, the Russians have not sent anything beyond earth orbit in quite a while.

Presently the Soyuz craft are a stop gap measure. Because the US government is getting out of the business of sending folks to near earth orbit and turning it all over to private enterprise. There are already several success stories. So their reliance on (the cheaper than available options)Soyuz wont last long.

The most sophisticated and longest missions on Mars to date have not been able to conclude the question of life on Mars. All inidications are so far that its barren, but with some intriguing prospects. Can you share some more information on the interesting pictures by the Russian craft that landed on Mars? Also shed some more light on the Russian engine.

The Russians have perfected one thing better than the Americans. Sending people to near earth oribit on the cheap. This will soon be done privately in the US.

For sure Americans have done very well in Space technologies but i doubt they are better than the Russians. The said Rover is using Russian engine; the international space Centre relies on Russian's Soyuz capsule for supplies and has been for quite sometime.
The Russians (then Soviet Union) were the first to land a craft in Mars and actually there exist some interesting pictures that some have speculated they prove existent of life in Mars.
Also Russians had the Mir Space Craft that lasted for decades(?) before Russians themselves crashed it into earth.
I could go on, but i think Americans have been playing catch-up game with Russians a far as space technologies is concerned. Nevertheless, the two nations have clearly pioneered the rest of the world...
Correct me if am wrong!

They have definitely mastered space technologies better than the rest of the world. I think previous trips did not so much definitively answer the question of life as raise more questions. This rover is supposed to provide some more insights. The most likely type of extra-terrestrial life we are likely to confirm in our lifetime is unfortunately the simplest type; microbes - perhaps moss-like like if we are very lucky. It doesn't mean there is nothing out there - complex life just likely to be rare.

[Karega]

Check this one on "life on Venus" theory
http://www.rt.com/news/alien-life-on-venus-485/

Of course NASA disagrees
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alejandro ... 32869.html

And more images and story;
http://www.sci-news.com/space/article00156.html

I agree with you that for last two decades or so the Russians have not done much in interplanetary exploration but that may be attributed to the chaotic nature of Russian transition from Soviet Union to a stable democracy and of course the wasted years of the weakling Boris Yeltsin. Now they seem to be dusting themselves up..........

In my opinion it is simply ridiculous for us humans to think that we are the ONLY intelligent beings in the entire universe and yet we know very little of what is actually there and how the universe function. The current theory is that the universe if infinite with almost countless stars and planets, so WHY would humans assume they are the only ones unless the belief is based on Religion fanaticism?

In interplanetary explorations the Russians have something to learn from them. Even if you ignore the Phobos-Grunt mission that failed to leave earth's orbit and crashed into the pacific ocean, the Russians have not sent anything beyond earth orbit in quite a while.

The most sophisticated and longest missions on Mars to date have not been able to conclude the question of life on Mars.

The most likely type of extra-terrestrial life we are likely to confirm in our lifetime is unfortunately the simplest type; microbes - perhaps moss-like like if we are very lucky. It doesn't mean there is nothing out there - complex life just likely to be rare.

[Terminator]

I am not sure what you are getting at. But the latest Mars landing was as impressive as anything we have seen humans achieve. If I want land an SUV on Mars, I know where to look. The rest of the stuff, especially about life on Venus is, with all due respect, rubbish. You don't have to go that route to prove that Russians have a respectable space program. Who doesn't know that?

Check this one on "life on Venus" theory
http://www.rt.com/news/alien-life-on-venus-485/

Of course NASA disagrees
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alejandro ... 32869.html

And more images and story;
http://www.sci-news.com/space/article00156.html

I agree with you that for last two decades or so the Russians have not done much in interplanetary exploration but that may be attributed to the chaotic nature of Russian transition from Soviet Union to a stable democracy and of course the wasted years of the weakling Boris Yeltsin. Now they seem to be dusting themselves up..........

In my opinion it is simply ridiculous for us humans to think that we are the ONLY intelligent beings in the entire universe and yet we know very little of what is actually there and how the universe function. The current theory is that the universe if infinite with almost countless stars and planets, so WHY would humans assume they are the only ones unless the belief is based on Religion fanaticism?

In interplanetary explorations the Russians have something to learn from them. Even if you ignore the Phobos-Grunt mission that failed to leave earth's orbit and crashed into the pacific ocean, the Russians have not sent anything beyond earth orbit in quite a while.

The most sophisticated and longest missions on Mars to date have not been able to conclude the question of life on Mars.

The most likely type of extra-terrestrial life we are likely to confirm in our lifetime is unfortunately the simplest type; microbes - perhaps moss-like like if we are very lucky. It doesn't mean there is nothing out there - complex life just likely to be rare.

[betelgeuse]

"Curiosity Will Be In Martian Atmosphere Early In The Morning" said Terminator, "Breakfast will be served just before touchdown. meantime a video of the touchdowm procedure i will play to you".

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/index.html

[Karega]

Let me sign off by clarifying the following;
1. It was never my intention to prove Russians have a better or comparable space program. My initial intention was to draw your attention to "others" Space programs and not just the American's because your initial post was just too too gung-ho! on American achievements that one might conclude you are not aware of any other. That's all.

2. The stories on Venus was in reply to your earlier question that i clarify about "life on Venus." I put out what i had without either endorsing it or refuting it. Just for information that there is such a debate/theory. Besides, all scientific advances/observations by reputable scientists across the world are subjected to discussions, ridicule, dismissal and other challenges before consensus emerge.

3. The "rest of the stuff" about whether there is life "out there" was my opinion in reply to your assertion that you do not think there ever will be found "intelligent/complicated" life apart from microbes. And i argued that given what is now known that the universe is just too massive and there are so many planets out there; the likelihood of human-like life/intelligent is really possible.

I am not sure what you are getting at. But the latest Mars landing was as impressive as anything we have seen humans achieve. If I want land an SUV on Mars, I know where to look. The rest of the stuff, especially about life on Venus is, with all due respect, rubbish. You don't have to go that route to prove that Russians have a respectable space program. Who doesn't know that?

[Terminator]

Its because the mission is American. Why isn't Roscosmos or ESA all over it? No other nation has attempted such a landing on another planet. That should not be too difficult to wrap your head around. The thread is about Curiosity. More specifically about the unprecedented landing on Mars. I also restricted my discussion on life to the type that is likely to be found on Mars if at all. Just read and revise the thread if necessary before you post.

Who doesn't know that there are other space programs apart from NASA?

Let me sign off by clarifying the following;
1. It was never my intention to prove Russians have a better or comparable space program. My initial intention was to draw your attention to "others" Space programs and not just the American's because your initial post was just too too gung-ho! on American achievements that one might conclude you are not aware of any other. That's all.

2. The stories on Venus was in reply to your earlier question that i clarify about "life on Venus." I put out what i had without either endorsing it or refuting it. Just for information that there is such a debate/theory. Besides, all scientific advances/observations by reputable scientists across the world are subjected to discussions, ridicule, dismissal and other challenges before consensus emerge.

3. The "rest of the stuff" about whether there is life "out there" was my opinion in reply to your assertion that you do not think there ever will be found "intelligent/complicated" life apart from microbes. And i argued that given what is now known that the universe is just too massive and there are so many planets out there; the likelihood of human-like life/intelligent is really possible.

I am not sure what you are getting at. But the latest Mars landing was as impressive as anything we have seen humans achieve. If I want land an SUV on Mars, I know where to look. The rest of the stuff, especially about life on Venus is, with all due respect, rubbish. You don't have to go that route to prove that Russians have a respectable space program. Who doesn't know that?

[betelgeuse]

Marsnault terminator, you inffered the inferiority of chinese, indianese and russianese space program just
because you landed curiosity on mars and were the first marsnault to take a martian footstep.

Its because the mission is American. Why isn't Roscosmos or ESA all over it? No other nation has attempted such a landing on another planet. That should not be too difficult to wrap your head around. The thread is about Curiosity. More specifically about the unprecedented landing on Mars. I also restricted my discussion on life to the type that is likely to be found on Mars if at all. Just read and revise the thread if necessary before you post.

Who doesn't know that there are other space programs apart from NASA?

Let me sign off by clarifying the following;
1. It was never my intention to prove Russians have a better or comparable space program. My initial intention was to draw your attention to "others" Space programs and not just the American's because your initial post was just too too gung-ho! on American achievements that one might conclude you are not aware of any other. That's all.

2. The stories on Venus was in reply to your earlier question that i clarify about "life on Venus." I put out what i had without either endorsing it or refuting it. Just for information that there is such a debate/theory. Besides, all scientific advances/observations by reputable scientists across the world are subjected to discussions, ridicule, dismissal and other challenges before consensus emerge.

3. The "rest of the stuff" about whether there is life "out there" was my opinion in reply to your assertion that you do not think there ever will be found "intelligent/complicated" life apart from microbes. And i argued that given what is now known that the universe is just too massive and there are so many planets out there; the likelihood of human-like life/intelligent is really possible.

I am not sure what you are getting at. But the latest Mars landing was as impressive as anything we have seen humans achieve. If I want land an SUV on Mars, I know where to look. The rest of the stuff, especially about life on Venus is, with all due respect, rubbish. You don't have to go that route to prove that Russians have a respectable space program. Who doesn't know that?

[Terminator]

Its a safe bet where to look if you want to land an SUV on Mars. If that means inferiority to some programs, its not my fault.

The Americans absolutely have the edge when it comes to space exploration and science missions. Off the top of my head Voyager(1 and 2) the furthest man made objects, still transmitting useful information 35 years after launch(quite literally since some of us were born), Hubble, Spitzer, Kepler Mission telescopes, Cassini, New Horizons 3 years away from Pluto; just the ones I can immediately recall. I can't recall anything doing anything in those regions of space by the Russians or Chinese. Maybe there is; I just can't recall it.

Marsnault terminator, you inffered the inferiority of chinese, indianese and russianese space program just
because you landed curiosity on mars and were the first marsnault to take a martian footstep.

Its because the mission is American. Why isn't Roscosmos or ESA all over it? No other nation has attempted such a landing on another planet. That should not be too difficult to wrap your head around. The thread is about Curiosity. More specifically about the unprecedented landing on Mars. I also restricted my discussion on life to the type that is likely to be found on Mars if at all. Just read and revise the thread if necessary before you post.

Who doesn't know that there are other space programs apart from NASA?

Let me sign off by clarifying the following;
1. It was never my intention to prove Russians have a better or comparable space program. My initial intention was to draw your attention to "others" Space programs and not just the American's because your initial post was just too too gung-ho! on American achievements that one might conclude you are not aware of any other. That's all.

2. The stories on Venus was in reply to your earlier question that i clarify about "life on Venus." I put out what i had without either endorsing it or refuting it. Just for information that there is such a debate/theory. Besides, all scientific advances/observations by reputable scientists across the world are subjected to discussions, ridicule, dismissal and other challenges before consensus emerge.

3. The "rest of the stuff" about whether there is life "out there" was my opinion in reply to your assertion that you do not think there ever will be found "intelligent/complicated" life apart from microbes. And i argued that given what is now known that the universe is just too massive and there are so many planets out there; the likelihood of human-like life/intelligent is really possible.

I am not sure what you are getting at. But the latest Mars landing was as impressive as anything we have seen humans achieve. If I want land an SUV on Mars, I know where to look. The rest of the stuff, especially about life on Venus is, with all due respect, rubbish. You don't have to go that route to prove that Russians have a respectable space program. Who doesn't know that?